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ShowMeCatholics's avatar

Thank you for stating so profoundly what has heretofore been censored from the modernist “dialogue”.

Thomas Gullickson's avatar

Thanks Ed! I hope Pope Leo reads you and takes counsel from the pars sanior on the way forward. St. Pius X, pray for us!

Barbara's avatar

Thank you Edward Pentin for this excellent article.

Many faithful Catholics are sick and tired of being falsely accused of causing division, when in fact they are the ones who have defended the Tradition and the Magisterium from being hollowed out by those in power positions who seem to have lost their faith. Praying for Pope Leo that he will have the courage to maintain Catholic teachings from the often aggressive attacks coming from LBGTQ/ transgender groups in and outside the Church. And to encourage faithful Catholics who have experienced marginalization in the past 12 years.

Dianne Raimondi's avatar

Pope Leo well not be a bulwark of orthodoxy! He comes from the same apostate element as Francis. Already he has shown his colors with his appointments and now his new exhortation with masonic elements throughout. He has retained the China deal which no legitimate pope would be involved with. Rome must be cleaned out completely. God will do it.

Men's Media Network's avatar

Where Marxism gains a foothold, allegiance to God and country, aka patriotism, is relabeled by the revolutionaries as dangerous "Christian Nationalism." In the Roman Catholic Church, where Marxism has a tangible foothold, adherence to the Deposit of Faith is labeled similarly as divisive and rigid "Traditionalism." The Vatican is at war with its own.

John Wright's avatar

Francis developed a rhetoric to change the senses fidelium. He condemned those who sought to reaffirm the faith given to the saints as 'scribes and Pharisees' while never condemning dissent from the left. This allowed an institutional move toward liberalization without formally embracing it. His habit of self-quoting in teaching documents established his own position as the new basis of the senses fidelium. Leo XIV has so far has tried to continue Francis' program while ameliorating the first and placing the second within a wider tradition that obscures the innovation of describing salvation as liberation from oppression within this world. It establishes the Bishop of Rome as a legal authority over a kingdom of this age -- despite JPIIs and Benedict XVIs teaching. The Bishop's become representatives of a CEO (the Pope) of an NGO (the church) with a political expertise in immigration policy while remaining silent on issues of mortal sin embraced by progressives that legitimately fall within the teaching authority of the church. Francis and Leo expand papal authority to silence conservatives in temporal matters in order to embrace what are considered progressive causes. This expansion of papal authority, however, threatens papal legitimacy from over-extension and abandonment of the office of bishop of Rome as Petrine office of the unity of the church catholic.

William Milsted's avatar

The Church needs to be counter-cultural instead of flirting with wokey issues …

John Wright's avatar

Counter-culture language smacks of romanticism. Without disagreeing with you in substance, the church needs to provide the fundamental culture - as it once did in North Atlantic societies.

Kimmie P's avatar

I had such hope. Now crushed under the weight of more the same. 50+ years a Catholic, I don’t recognize my church anymore. I’m now a laughing stock to friends and family who have always disagreed with church teaching that is yet again been turned on its head. For what? golden trophies, worldly acceptance?

Giuliano Gevasi's avatar

By emphasizing his continuity with Pope Francis and avoiding carefully in his major pronouncement to date (Dilexi te) to ask about the real causes of division in the Church, Pope Leo XIV is unfortunately working against his own goal of overcoming the divisions tearing the Church of Christ apart.

May the Holy Spirit answer in the person of the successor of Peter the prayer of the blind to Jesus: "Lord, that I may see"!

In a large number of faithful the initial hope bound to the papal election of Leo XIV is giving way to

discouragement and resignation. "Plus ca change plus c'est la meme": Leo XIV is actually Francis II,

gentle in manner, identical in substance.

Elías's avatar

Catering to people who do not uphold tradition leads to a church that is slowly emptied out of people who are serious about its teachings. Instead we are left with a shell, a pseudo-religion that is no one cares to follow. The same people who applaud the new age revisions are the ones that are lukewarm at the pews and hard-core on the yoga mat.

E.B.B. Frago's avatar

Luke 12:51

"Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division."

The title of the chapter in Luke is Jesus: a cause of division

The difference is that Cardinals like Raymond Burke, Joseph Zen, Gerhard Muller, et al. follow Jesus Christ. Those others like kasper, cupich, lori, mcelroy, et al. will be known for their heresy; and like others who have been known as Gnostics or other names, bergoglio and the lavender mafia will be known as the perverts.

Pope Leo XIV and other cardinals, while they breathe, can still choose to follow Jesus instead of the marxist bergoglio.

Richard Luczak's avatar

There is a youtube channel called vaticancatholic that purports to offer both facts and conclusions to support its sedevecantist views. Well, while my personally withholding judgment on the latter, I find I cannot disagree with the former, i.e. facts. Several videos offer seemingly well-researched precedents that have been trampled by what it calls "the Vatican II sect." They peer into the sausage factory that has been the Vatican since the council. Like Pentin says, there are too many instances to cite. Whose church is this?

John Brophy's avatar

Padre Pio was very astute. When the Novos Ordo appeared at VII, and even before it was instituted, he requested and obtained a derogation and adhered to the traditional rite until he died in 1968. Paul VI was a supporter of Padre Pio, despite their differences, unlike John XXIII who applied further restrictions on Pio´s ministry in a second round of persecution (the first having ended in 1933). All that to say, we must be prepared to face another round of persecution.

Timon Dornbierer's avatar

The Novus Ordo wasn't implemented until 1970 AFAIK.

Dena Fredrickson's avatar

I read today that the closing of the Knoxville TLM was done at the request of the Dicastery of Divine Worship - in other words, at the request of the Pope. Can you confirm this?

Gary Cummings's avatar

people like you, Ed, give me hope.

Fred's avatar

A tenet of Freemasonry is that religious doctrines (i.e., especially Catholic Dogma) is divisive and therefore must be discarded in fraternal discourse.

Myrtsie's avatar

The African Sentry is a great writer from Uganda.

https://open.substack.com/pub/sanctistulti/p/ii-a-summary-of-the-impossible-circumstance?r=47dt3&utm_medium=ios

“The heart of the change was a shift in posture toward the modern world, the Popes Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pope St Pius X unrelentingly condemned modern errors and Gaudium et Spes proposed a cease-fire and instead engagement with the modern world. No one denies this about face, but few talk about its immense impact.”